{"id":3186,"date":"2014-10-29T00:47:44","date_gmt":"2014-10-29T00:47:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/teresadawson.wordpress.com\/?p=2033"},"modified":"2014-10-29T00:47:44","modified_gmt":"2014-10-29T00:47:44","slug":"just-saying-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/?p=3186","title":{"rendered":"Just Saying No"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>The following exchange occurred at a meeting of the Maui Board of Water Supply on November 22, 2000. David Craddick, director of the Department of Water Supply, and Ellen Kraftsow, of the department&#8217;s Water Resources Division, are questioned by Board chairman Elmer Cravalho and members Robert Takitani and Jonathan Starr. County Planning Director John Min is present as well.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Takitani<\/b>: Do you have any idea what outstanding commitment or value is, as to the outstanding permit requests, as to how many gallons that would equate to\u00c9?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: I think it&#8217;s in your staff reports right now.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Takitani<\/b>: Tell me how much.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: It comes up to about a third of a million gallons.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Starr:<\/b> In other words, equal to the `Iao Stream. Could I take that one step further? \u00c9 I see we have the planning director here. I was wondering if he has any way of giving us an idea of how many housing units or meter units we&#8217;re looking toward, regarding development for which permits have been issued in South Maui, in Central Maui.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Min<\/b>: I don&#8217;t have that information with me. We can put it together for the board.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Starr:<\/b> I would like to see that\u00c9.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow:<\/b> May I make one little clarification?<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: Yes, ma&#8217;am.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: The question that Mr. Takitani asked: Actually, that&#8217;s just water reservations that have been accepted. Because when we answer the Planning Department about permits, we tell them no guarantee of water is granted or implied. The number I&#8217;m giving you is outstanding reservations for water, but in terms of \u00c9 permits and approvals, it would be high.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Takitani:<\/b> Do you have any idea?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: We can put it together for you. \u00c9 There are some large developments out there like Wailea 670, but we do kind of estimate &#8211; there have been no commitments of water yet, but we do estimate with each review what each thing would use. So we can go back and put together a back count. But it would take awhile.<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: Let me see if I understand you completely. Projects that may have been approved but without any water commitments &#8211; would that be a correct statement for me to make?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: I think so. The water is not considered guaranteed until they actually applied or received a meter.<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: Building permits may have been granted?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: Discretionary permits.<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: To your knowledge, has there been representation from the department into the meetings of the Planning Commission or Planning Department?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: We put this information in our letters and we make ourselves available for when they request them.<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: Has the department and\/or staff expressed any kind of concerns with respect to any projects that have been planned or requests have been made for approval?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ms. Kraftsow<\/b>: We typically express concern, but what we found is that for a while we started recommending denials, and it wasn&#8217;t really paid attention to at the time. So we tried another tactic which was, &#8216;okay, we&#8217;ll give you an estimate of how much water we expect the permit would use.&#8217; We have been doing that consistently for years now, so, &#8216;you guys are the land use decision makers, here is how much water it will take, you decide what is acceptable.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: In your judgment, do we have enough water to meet the potential consumption demand for all projects that have already been approved? \u00c9<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Craddick<\/b>: The answer is no.<\/p>\n<p><b>Chairman Cravalho<\/b>: Do we have enough water?<\/p>\n<p><b>Mr. Craddick<\/b>: The answer is no.<\/p>\n<p><i>Postscript: Craddick told Environment Hawai`i that as of April, Planning Director John Min had not provided the Board of Water Supply with the requested information on approved developments in South Maui. <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Volume 11, Number 11 May 2001<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following exchange occurred at a meeting of the Maui Board of Water Supply on November 22, 2000. David Craddick, director of the Department of Water Supply, and Ellen Kraftsow, of the department&rsquo;s Water Resources Division, are questioned by Board &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/?p=3186\">Continued<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[311],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3186","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-may-2001"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3186","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3186"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3186\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3186"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3186"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/environment-hawaii.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3186"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}